Pastor Gary Froseth

Information and Opinions on Subjects of Interest to Me

   It is time for the people of St. Stephen to plan our future.

   Why?  Why not just keep things the way they are?

   Both are great questions.

   The first, why? may best be answered by the old adage that if we don’t know where we are going, any road will get us there.

   If that is not a satisfactory answer — and it may not be.  I would supplement the answer by telling you that, as a leader, I am more comfortable if I know more about our collective hopes and dreams for St. Stephen.  It is a knowledge that helps me develop the tools I need (and that we all need) to achieve some of those goals.  I am a pastor who likes to work with clear goals in mind.  I like to know where we want to be in ten years before I chart a path that might take us in a different direction

   The second, why not keep things the way they are? speaks to the present but not to the future.  My understanding of the history of the church is that every generation has an obligation to pass the church to the next generation.  That requires us to adapt to new circumstances.  Folks who have been around here a long time talk about walking to worship.  We don’t do that anymore.  We  once provided a school for the sake of this community.  We don’t do that anymore either.  Some ministries don’t make sense to continue.  Other ministries are begun to serve new generations.

   I have been with you for nearly two years.  It has been a time for me to get to know you and a time for you to get to know me.

  We are at the point now where I need to know (and you should want to share with me) the direction we want to travel together as a congregation.

   I don’t know the extent to which St. Stephen has done long-range planning in the past.  It seems to me from 25 years of experience that there are several ways for us to chart our future.  I have done each of these in different ministry settings:

  1. I could set a direction based upon what I have learned about our congregation and community during the past 22 months.  The problem with that approach is that we would get little accomplished because the goals I set may not be the ministry goals of the congregation.
  2. The staff could set a direction.  St. Stephen is fortunate to have a very dedicated and proficient staff working on your behalf.  They could chart a future based upon their own skills and interests.  It is a slightly better approach that having me determine the congregation’s future by myself.  But, still, very limited in the number of members it involves.
  3. I could ask the committees and Council to work with me to set a direction and determine the goals that we will pursue during the coming several years.  There is somewhat more ownership with this approach but it still uses only a small group of people to determine our congregation’s goals.
  4. We could attempt to get as many members as possible involved in conversations about our passions as a people of God and set our direction based upon those shared passions.  This is the best approach of all because everyone who wants to participate has an opportunity to be involved in a meaningful conversation about our individual passions.

   I thought we would be able to get this process started months ago.  When I formed a Core Team (more than a year ago) it was with the intent of training a group of dedicated leaders to do interviews and build a larger team of St. Stephen members who would go out into the congregation and learn something about the passions of our members.

   I think we did a pretty good job of training those Core Team members to do the interviews but I wasn’t able to take it to the next level.  Honestly, we had meeting after meeting cancelled because of the number of funerals that were conducted here during 2009.

   Despite that, we got very close to beginning an “inreach” campaign (that’s what we call an intensive effort to talk with as many people as we can).  A number of our members agreed to attend a community-wide training event.  But, my surgery got scheduled just before the training and I wasn’t able to be there to let our members know how I wanted to apply what they learned for our ministry at St. Stephen.  I don’t know what happened at that training but many of those who attended decided it wasn’t something that they wanted to do.

   Now, we have a second opportunity to train St. Stephen people and conduct a congregational inreach.  The training is being conducted under the auspices of NAOMI.  Folks will be trained to conduct what we call a one-on-one interview.  I abbreviate it as 1:1.

   80% of the interview is devoted to careful listening.  It is probably a skill that most of us can use.  20% of the interview is making use of the skills of courage and curiosity.  The courage is hard to explain in writing.  The curiosity is about showing a genuine interest in the other person and wanting to know more about what he/she has been willing to share.

   This interview is not about “what do you think we should do at St. Stephen?”  The subject of future ministries may never come up.  In fact, it is more useful if it doesn’t come up.

   Instead, it is about “what do you care about?”  When we design our ministries in conjunction with what people care about, then we might actually get better participation in the ministries we decide to pursue together.

   For example, member X might say we need more assisting ministers.  But if no one cares about being an assisting minister, setting that as a goal is just a source of huge frustration.

   If, however, member Y says she has always wanted to help kids with their homework and we find that several other members share the same interest, maybe we should start thinking about starting an after-school tutoring ministry for kids in the community.

   I would be ecstatic if I could find 50 people who would be willing to conduct 250 congregational interviews (5 conversations each during the next six weeks).  I would be ecstatic!

   This is my hope:

  1. 50 St. Stephen people come to be trained to conduct 1:1 interviews.  The training will be held at St. Anne Roman Catholic Church on Monday, April 12 from 6:00pm until 9:00pm.  I have insisted that the agenda include time for a congregational “caucus” so that St. Stephen people can apply the training to our own planning process.
  2. Each of the 50 trained interviewers conduct 1 interview each week for the next 5 weeks.  The results of each interview will be recorded on a form that you will submit to the church office.  Results of the interviews will also be used by NAOMI to determine which issues they will concentrate on during the coming year(s).
  3. The Core Team will collate the report sheets and try to find passions that are shared by our members.
  4. We will reconvene the group of 50 in late May or early June to discuss and refine what we learned from our interviews.  My hope is that this group of 50 (more is ok too) will make recommendations on our congregational goals for the next 3, 5, and 10 years.  Maybe, even, they will re-write our mission statement.

What Does This Have to do with NAOMI?

    Everything and Nothing.

   Nothing, in that these 250 interviews are conducted expressly for the purpose of defining the future and mission of St. Stephen Lutheran Church.  The 1:1 interview is a tool used in congregation-based organizing that is perfect, not just for this purpose, but for the purpose of enhancing relationships within the congregation.

   It has everything to do with NAOMI in that one of the primary goals of NAOMI is to strengthen its member congregations.  I will write further about the ministry and goals of NAOMI in a future pastoral letter.  For now, you should know that, as President of NAOMI, I am firmly committed to the tasks of strengthening all of our member congregation as well as in fostering a climate of interchurch cooperation throughout the region.  I believe that the climate of competition serves none of us.  But that we are all better served with a new climate of cooperation.  When eight (or more) congregations can join together so that all our members can learn the same set of skills, the entire Wausau faith community is better off.

   One of my assignments at the April 12 training is to explain how the skill of 1:1 interviews can help congregations at the same time that it benefits the mission of NAOMI.

   Whatever your experience may have been at a previous NAOMI training, I hope that my presence and my leadership at this training will make it a qualitatively better experience.

Will You Be One of the 50?

   This is one of those times when I need your participation.  If you have read this far, I know that you are one who cares deeply about St. Stephen Church and is interested in the future direction of our ministry.

   I have this dream that congregational planning can be done by involving almost every active member.

   Making the dream into a reality depends on all of you.  If you are willing to step out in faith and take a risk, I believe that our future together can be very exciting.  I invite you into that future.

NAOMI Board Meeting

March 23, 2010

Attendance: Bruce Chopp, Tom Goode, Marion Buckley, Ron Alexander, Rev. Joe Ellwanger, Pastor Gary Froseth, Rev.Charles Sanders, Lou Ann Bohn, Rev. Rebecca Peters.

1)       Pastor Gary Froseth called the meeting to order at 6:34pm and Bruce Chopp led us in the opening prayer, followed by introductions of all present.

2)       As recommended by the Executive Committee, Sandy Grass, Bill Hall, and Rev. Rebecca Peters were elected as at-large NAOMI Board members.

3)      The secretary’s reports for the February 23, 2010 Board Meeting and the March 11, 2010 Executive Committee   Meeting were placed on file as printed.

4)      The treasurer, Linda Glazner was unable to make this meeting, so members were referred to the financial information stated in the March 11. 2010 Executive Committee meeting.

5)      Rev. Joe Ellwanger gave his Organizer’s Report:

a)     He made a strong pitch for good representation from NAOMI members for the April 17, 2010 WISDOM Leadership Assembly to be held in Sun Prairie from 9:00am-3:30pm.  Father Steve Brice will be on the program as the Keynote speaker, Dr. Lauri Andress will talk about Health Equity. A highlight of this assembly will be specific topic break-out sessions, where attendees can meet with fellow advocates from around the state, who share these passions. We are to get commitments to attend this assembly and email Pastor Gary.  We should have a minimum of 10 participants from each of our congregations.

b)     Joe also talked about the importance of each congregation having an active “core team”, (called Justice Teams in some congregations) continually identifying “justice issues” relevant to them, which may or may not become a NAOMI issue. Other  reasons included: motivates congregations to think about doing “justice” more effectively; looking outward towards their neighboring community; nurtures leadership and relationships

6)       Discussed recruitment from our congregations for the April 12th kickoff and 1:1 training to be held at St. Anne’s at 6:00pm. Pastor Gary is asking for “big” numbers from each congregation as doing 1:1’s in our congregations is how we get the input to form our issues and is the backbone of “organizing”.  He asked Bruce Chopp to bring 30 people from Resurrection/ St. Michaels WOW!!

7)      Pastor Gary gave a report on his involvement at a Transportation Equity Meeting in Washington D.C.  He was representing Gamaliel, the lead organization in this network. Under the current guidelines, Wausau could lose up to $250,000 in Mass Transit funding, which would cripple our system.  So, we see the potential of a local transit issue (lack of service to Rib Mountain area); a state issue with the establishment of a Regional Transit Authority in Marathon County; and a Federal issue with operating fund losses.  Because of the breadth and importance of this looming problem, the formation of Transportation Task Force was approved and Marion Buckley agreed to serve on this task force.  Pastor Gary will recruit others. 

8)      Rev. Joe Ellwanger gave the Treatment Instead of Prison report, describing the active work of this group in influencing County decision makers to address Substance Abuse and mental Health treatment needs for current Marathon County jail inmates, expedite the handling of OWI cases to better address the treatment needs of people charged, to reduce recidivism.  He highlighted a proposal for TIP to sponsor a local symposium, inviting Mike Olig from Winnebago County to address the implementation of successful, innovative programs in various Wisconsin Counties, including the SSTOP Program that he manages in Winnebago County…this could happen as early as the first couple of weeks in May. He also reported that the TIP task force has changed the day of their regular meetings to the 3rd Thursday of the month, starting with the April 15th meeting; the Board meets at 5:00pm and the group at 6:00 pm.

9)      Pastor Gary reported that Rev. Dennis Jacobsen will be in Wausau on June 1, 2010.  He is the Leader of the Gamaliel  National Clergy Caucus and the author of an important book on congregational organizing. Efforts will be made to involve Rev. Jacobsen with our organization.

10)   Pastor Gary announced that he will be attending the Gamaliel National Clergy Caucus: April 27-29 in Mundelein, Illinois and invited other clergy to join him.

11)   Host sites for upcoming events:

  1. April 12 1:1 kickoff and training (6:00pm): Church of St.Anne
  2. April 13 Executive Committee (12:30-2:00) Mt.Sinai Congregation
  3. April 15 TIP(6:00) First Presbyterian Church
  4. April 17 WISDOM Leadership Assembly(9:00-3:30) Sun Prairie
  5. April 27 Board of Directors (6:30) St. Stephen Lutheran Church
  6. May 11 Executive Committee (12:30-2:00) Mt. Sinai Congregation
  7. May 20 TIP (6:00) First Presbyterian Church
  8. May 24 Issues Assembly(6:00) The Episcopal Church of St. John the Baptist
  9. May 25 Board of Directors (6:30)Mt. Sinai Congregation
  10. June 8 Executive Committee(12:30-2:00)Mt. Sinai Congregation
  11. June 17 TIP (6:00) First Presbyterian Church
  12. June 27 Board of Directors (6:30) The Episcopal Church of St. John the Baptist

12)   We went around and did a one word (or two) evaluation of the meeting, Pastor Rebecca offered a closing prayer and we adjourned.

submitted by Ron Alexander, Secretary

Vote Today

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   My question for today is “are you comfortable with your township, your village, or your city being run by 15%, 18%, or at most 20% of its citizens?”

   That is what is about to happen.  It is spring election day.  One of the most ignored election days in the nation (there is one worse:  the February spring primary election).

   One of the difficulties with this election is that the candidates don’t attract many (any?) campaign contributions.  Candidates don’t advertise and the opportunity to vote is too easily forgotten.

   As a new resident is a new municipality, I have had to be intentional about determining who I will vote for.  No candidates have come to my door.  I have received no mailings that describe the candidates’ stance on issues.  I have had to rely on reports in the media to keep me informed.

   But I will vote.  I always vote.  It is a part of my public theology.  Today I will vote in honor of the 418 Lutheran ministers who were arrested by the Nazis on April 6, 1934.

   Hitler had taken dictatorial powers in Germany just one year earlier.  Almost immediately, he sought to take control of the Church.  Christian Odyssey reports that restrictions were immediately placed on the clergy.  They had to be “politically reliable” and accept the superiority of the Aryan race.  Pressure was exerted to expel Jewish Christians frm ministry.  The Nazi “Führer Principle” was to be adopted by the churches, which was a claim that Hitler was “lord” over the German church and that its Christ and Christianity wre uniquely Aryan.

   Fortunately, there were those in the clergy (though a minority) who protested the lordship of Adolph Hitler.  It was not easy.  Hitler was extremely popular in 1934.  Surely, members of their churches must have questioned the patriotism of their pastors.

   The arrests of April 6 were undoubtedly an attempt to halt the formation of the Confessing Church under the leadership of Martin Niemöller.  But the arrests could not stop the efforts of the Pastors’ Emergency League.  On May 29-31, 1934 the leaders of the Confessing Church met at Barmen and issued the historic Barmen Declaration which expressed that Christ alone is the one Word of God — the source of all authority and truth — whom we must hear, trust and obey. 

   Voting is a privilege and responsibility that is too often taken for granted.  I am in awe of the courage that it takes to speak in opposition to the powers and principalities.   I pray that I might never be put in a position of facing arrest for the sake of my faith in Christ.  But I shall be steadfast in the exercise of my public responsibilities — to speak on issues in the public arenda, to advocate on behalf of those who societies tend to step over and leave behind, and, easiest of all — to vote.

   Join me today at the polls.

   I am a government junkie.

   I like a good public policy debate.  I like to watch C-span.  I like to watch Wisconsin Eye.  Sometimes, when my schedule doesn’t allow me to tune-in to live programming.  I tape it for viewing later in the day.

   Unfortunately, I am not treated to very much “real” debate from Madison.  Sometimes I will start a recorded program only to encounter a screen that tells me that the Assembly is in recess for partisan caucuses.  On issues where debate is most needed, it is an announcement that can stay on my screen for hours.

   As a government junkie, the lack of genuine public debate infuriates me.  Because, when members come back from their partisan caucuses what I get is a “staged” debate.  It appears to me that the Democrats have chosen key representatives to discuss certain aspects of a complex bill.  The Republicans seem to have chosen other representatives to attack those provisions of the bill.  What I get is a stage play.

   Why can’t I see the “real” debate?  Why aren’t Wisconsin citizens treated to the “real” opinions and concerns of our elected representatives?  Simply because members of the Wisconsin legislature don’t want us to see the messy details of law-making.  We might not be able to handle the truth.  We can only be trusted with their, white-washed, version.

   I find the practice to be insulting and demeaning.  It should be illegal.

   It is illegal for every government body in Wisconsin except the state legislature.  If the Wausau City Council divided themselves into an East Side Caucus and a West Side Caucus, it would be against the law for those caucuses to meet behind closed doors to consider matters that were to come before the Council.

   Since 1975, Wisconsin has had an Open Meetings law which forbids government bodies from doing the people’s business in secret — except for the state legislature.  Wausau City Council members can’t even gather (in private) to plan an annual, Council Christmas party.  An opinion by the Attorney General says that “if at least one-half of the government body is present at the meeting, the meeting is presumed to be for engaging in government business.”

   Thirteen months ago, Representative Cory Mason introduced a bill (Assembly Bill 143) to end the legislative exemption.  Under his bill, partisan caucuses would be open to public scrutiny.  Notice would have to be given before a caucus could meet, an agenda would need to be published, and the media would be allowed to report on the discussions held inside the caucus.

   Guess what would happen.  Real debate would return to the floor of the legislature — where it belongs.  Alliances could be formed across party lines on an issue-by-issue basis.  The thumbs-up/thumbs-down sign given by party leaders before a vote might be diminished.  Sometimes I wonder why we need 99 representatives when all the votes seem to be controlled by three or four party leaders.

   Right now the probability of enacting AB143 into law is exactly 0%.  Secrecy is the legislature’s friend.  Of 133 members of the Senate and Assembly, Representative Mason’s bill has attracted 4 co-sponsors in the Assembly (2 Democrats, 1 Republican, and 1 Independent) and 1 co-sponsor in the Senate (a Republican).

   Sunshine will never come to Madison unless the public expresses its outrage.  I’ve never met Representative Mason but I am going to express my support of him by contributing $50 to his campaign fund.  I’m going to let him know that it is a contribution in support of his efforts to open partisan caucuses to public scrutiny.  I encourage you to do the same.  You can contribute on-line by going to www.mason4assembly.com or, better yet, mail a check to:

Friends of Mason
4403 Happy Hollow Lane
Racine, WI  53403

   Maybe if folks see Mason getting $1,000 in contributions because of this issue, they will begin to see the light.  Maybe.

Remember

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St. Stephen Lutheran Church            
Wausau, Wisconsin        
The Resurrection of Our Lord
April 4, 2010
Remember
Luke 24: 1-12
The Rev. Gary L. Froseth

   Dear friends:  Grace be to you and peace from our Lord and Savior, Jesus the Christ.  Amen.

   Do you ever get those chain e-mails that you must be over 40; or over 50; or over 60 if you remember certain things.

   I haven’t gotten one in a while.  Since chain e-mails don’t usually avoid my delete button for very long, I don’t actually have one to share with you.  But, they are intended to bring back another time from your memory, like . .

  • Do you remember what you were doing when you heard that President Kennedy died or when President Roosevelt died?
  • Do you remember catching lightening bugs in a jar?
  • Do you remember sugar sandwiches?
  • Do you remember a milkman who delivered milk to your home in a glass bottle?
  • Do you remember, if I told you once, I told you a thousand times?
  • Do you remember . . .
star light, star bright, first star I see tonight,
I wish I may, I wish I might, have the wish I wish tonight.
  • Do you remember dialing a telephone?

   I don’t know about you but I’m convinced that I never once heard the words, if I told you once, I told you a thousand times and decided that I would remember them.  More likely, I later heard the words come out of my own lips and chuckled to myself about how I had become my own father.

   That’s how it is with remembering.  If I want to be sure to forget something, I need only to tell myself to be sure and remember it.  It is those things that I never thought about remembering which today come back to bring richness and meaning to my life.

   Apparently, that is also how it was with the women who made the journey to Jesus’ tomb on that first Easter morning.  They saw something that they didn’t understand and were immediately filled with fear.  The body of their teacher, their leader, which they had so carefully entombed just prior to the Sabbath was not where they had laid it.

   Something must have gone terribly wrong and they couldn’t imagine what it could be.  The men in the tomb, with their dazzling clothes could only have frightened them more.  They found themselves on their knees with their faces in the ground when, suddenly, that most important of words was spoken to them:  remember.

   Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee, that the Son of Man must be handed over to sinners, and be crucified, and on the third day rise again.  I wonder what came first to mind after they heard those words:

  • Maybe it was their own disbelief when Jesus first made the dramatic prediction.
  • Maybe it was the bold reaction of Peter when Jesus had to identify him as satanic to get Peter back into his proper place.
  • Maybe it was the general confusion that surrounded such a prediction as Jesus’ own followers struggled to understand the meaning of his words.

   Whatever their reaction had been when Jesus first made those predictions of his passion, it was a prediction

that, at the time, made no sense to them.  It was a promise without any meaning.  It was only after the promise had already been fulfilled, it was only after the events that Jesus predicted had already come to pass, it was only after their discovery of the empty tomb, that the eyes of these women could finally be opened, that they could remember the promise in a new way, and they could react with the joy of a people who have received the fullness of the grace of God.

   I believe that we hear the story of Jesus in much the same way — as just a story.  In all honesty, we are much more interested in the celebrations of our church festivals than in the stories that lay behind those festivals.  We put up with the story of the manger so that we can get on with the celebration of Christmas.  We take note of the story of the passion so that we can move quickly to the eggs of Easter.  We put up with the quirks of the Church so that, through the rituals of the Church, we can mark the important events of our lives through baptisms, confirmations, weddings, and funerals.  For the story is about a future promise and that doesn’t always seem very real to those of us who deal with the uncertainties of life in the present.

   Yet, even when their life together indicated to Jesus that his followers would not be able to understand the meaning of his words, he still shared the prediction of his passion with them.  Again and again he told them.  Not to answer their questions or to provide a theological explanation or even to bring them to faith.

   He told them because, one day, they would need to remember.  He told them for the sake of the day to come when the reality of fulfillment would help them to remember the promise under which they had lived for many years.

   That is also the purpose of this day — that is the reason for the existence of the Church:  to tell the story.

  • We are here to say again that in the course of human history, God sent one into the world who we know as Jesus of Nazareth.
  • We are here to say again that this Jesus is the only person ever born who has lived a sinless life.
  • We are here to say again that, despite his godliness, Jesus was rejected, suffered a vicious execution, was buried, and on the third day was raised from the dead.
  • We are here to say again that the purpose of Jesus’ innocent suffering and death was in payment for our failings.
  • We are here to say again that because he lives, we too are heirs of God’s promise of life.

   We say all of these words in the hope that one day, all who hear the words will remember them and, finally, will understand.  For they are words of such impact for the course of individual lives that we can’t possibly understand them when we hear them.  They are much more like all those experiences we remember from childhood, the significance of which we couldn’t possibly have guessed as we were living them.  But in our remembrance of them, we now understand them to be the building blocks that helped us to develop into the individuals who we have each become.

   This worship service seeks to offer that same promise to you:  that the words which we repeat again today might stay with you during the course of your years on this earth until the day comes when it is time to remember.  Then, your remembering will bring you the comfort, the joy, and the hope that will be waiting for you when you come to know that the tomb was emptied also for you.

   May that be your remembrance from this Easter, 2010.  Amen.

Copyright © 2010 The Rev. Gary L. Froseth.  All rights reserved.